Completely Scripted | PWN Call #7

Hello.

Hey, welcome back to the phone call where friends and members of the Playwell Network Get together to chat, see what's going on, and share some experiences and things that we're into. And there's gonna be some rabbit trails. Maybe there's gonna be some rabbit trails, or maybe we will stick to our script 100% of the way. Well, we'll see, and you'll see as well. Hey, hey, hear that chuckling? Don't, don't you do that to me. I'm driving this car. I will pull over this car right now.

He will pull over this podcast right now, young man.

If you don't pipe down. Sorry, I'm I'm, uh, well, like I said, I'm driving this, this crazy train, uh, going off the rails here. Uh, it's Crazy Taxi. I'm Josh. We've got a bunch of people here. We've got Nate.

Heyo!

We've got Paul.

Hi!

And we've got Mark.

What's up?

All from our different, uh, you know, podcasts. So all Pwnedcasts here today for ya. Um, so, you know, it's been a little bit since we've talked with each other. We've got a nice little band of regulars. This is great. Uh, but it still has been at least You know, maybe a couple weeks since we recorded last.

You said it wrong. You keep saying it wrong. Say it right, Josh.

Okay.

Hey Josh, I gotta go to the bathroom.

Try again.

Can we pull over?

You don't tell me what to do. I will pull over this podcast. Don't you talk to me like that.

Try again.

It's been—

It's been an undisclosed amount of time since we last conversed.

Thank you.

So, uh, Nate, how you been, dude?

Pretty good. We are starting to get— we're starting to hit like autumn, like fall, which is cool because it's, it's hoodie season and that rules. That's great cigar smoking weather. Yeah, I'm just a fan of like the temperate zone that we're going to hang out with. I'm not a fan of all the rain that we've been getting lately, but whatever.

Like rain, rain, go away. Yeah.

So yeah, uh, yeah, we're doing pretty good. Just working a lot, kind of, uh, been getting a lot of overtime lately, which is nice because I got bills to pay. So, because this, this thing definitely does not pay my bills. I'm just saying that, like, I'm gonna lodge a complaint to HR.

Yeah, I use up so many of my minutes on this phone call. It's crazy.

That's— all these are past 9, so that doesn't count.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

Don't you worry.

Yeah, but is it long distance? Dude, was there ever— yeah, I think there was long distance with cell phones, weren't there? Across state lines?

Something. I think when they first came out. Yeah, there was like—

yeah.

Okay.

It's like we, uh, when I was in high school, I was flirting with this girl who lived in, in Waller, which is not far from Houston, but far enough to be long distance. And my dad didn't want me using long distance, but he had a car phone. And by a car phone, I mean a block phone that's hooked up to the battery that plugs in. And he says it's not long distance from there because that's a Houston line. And so I tried calling her from there, and we spent half the conversation going, what? Wait, what? It was awful. This was the '90s, y'all. Y'all don't understand.

Look how far we've come.

You weren't there.

Babies. But nice. But all things considered, how have you been, Paul, outside of, outside of using that car phone, trying to get that to work? I mean, years ago at this point, but you know.

If y'all were wondering, it did not— like, we never went out or anything.

It did just crash and burn.

Uh, it is also getting fall weather here. We're gonna be as low as 93 tomorrow, so hoodie weather.

That sounds awful, and I hate it. I hate it.

No, things are, uh, things are good here. I am, I'm really, really close, uh, to finishing up the, um, the first book of poetry I'm working on. And, um, and so I'll have it out soon. I forgot it. I, I think I mentioned that last time, but y'all are staring at me. So maybe not.

We're listening raptly.

This, this one is going to be called, uh, Streetlight and Other Poems About Love and Loneliness.

Nice. Very nice.

I like that.

I, I know things about loneliness and streetlights. Very little about that other thing.

Cool. All right, Mark, how you been, dude?

I've been good. I was about to complain about the heat, but now I don't feel so bad. Um, it is— we've hit in Here in North Georgia, we've hit about 90 past week until, until today. We had a nice afternoon thunderstorm and things cooled off and it was nice. Um, we did go to the beach for kind of a long weekend. We went down to Orange Beach, Alabama on the Gulf, uh, kind of near Pensacola and had a great time with some family. It was with the kids. It was kind of high highs and low lows where the kids had a great time. I loved it. My son also had like 2 of the biggest meltdowns of his life just 2 days in a row. So it's, it was best of times, worst of times, but that's vacation for you. Um, yeah, it was overall really good. It was kind of nice and restful. We're not usually beach people, but we kind of, we've done this twice now with, with my wife's, uh, sister and her family and my wife's, uh, parents. And so yeah, we show up and have a good time. But it's nice to be home, kind of get back the swing of things. The fall is going to be busy, but I'm looking forward to fall weather. Yeah, that's where I'm at.

Yeah, awesome, awesome, man. Well, yeah, that sounds, that sounds like, like it would be pretty nice. I'm a pretty go-with-the-flow type guy, so yeah, I mean, like, yeah, beach sounds awesome. There's not something, you know, like I need or anything like that, but it's a great time.

And there was literally lazy river so we could go with the flow as much as we wanted.

Nice, nice.

Those are, those are very nice. I enjoy those times. Um, yeah, we've been pretty good for the most part, um, outside of just another round of sickness that of course gets passed around the entire family, um, with just like cold symptoms and stuff like that, which is super fun for a family of 5, you know, to just consecutively get it, and some people getting it worse than others and all that. But we're doing good, we're past that. My, uh, my son, my firstborn son, turned 11 just the other day. And so—

That's awesome.

That was fun celebrating him and getting him some stuff, uh, pre-ordering, uh, Minecraft Dungeons 2 for him because he really likes the first one. So there's that. Um, yeah, yeah, having, having a good time. We're, we're doing well, all things considered. Um, but outside of, you know, some experiences like going to the beach, like writing poetry, like, uh, walking, singing in the rain— probably that's, that's how I imagine you deliver mail, right, Nate? Probably just singing in the rain the whole time.

It is funny you mentioned that.

Um, Oh, do you do the dance, Nate?

No, no, I— and I don't even sing that song, but I have—

How do you know Streetlights so well?

Yeah, Jared actually preached on, uh, he's preaching through— is it Psalm 52, I think? And okay, now this, Josh, this you might catch this. Paul, I, I'm— but Keith Green's Create in Me a Clean Heart Is based on like three of those verses from that path. I think it's song fifty-two. Anyways, for like the last three days, that song has been in my head. Like nice. So I'm not mad about that. I mean, like to be fair, like Keith Green is like fine. Like but I like that. A mystery guest has appeared.

A wild Nate. A fake Nate has appeared.

A faker.

That was actually an accident. I was just trying to test out my equipment and I hit the join button.

And you're here. Yeah, well, trial by fire, my friend.

Yeah, I guess so.

Well, you're here now, so it's too late. It's too late. You're stuck.

There's no— there's no turning back. You're here. We were just talking about how we've been since the last time that we recorded, so, um, I'll just go ahead and put you on the spot. How have you been, dude?

Uh, doing pretty good. We got, uh, uh, we just got back from vacation. Our family did.

Nice.

It was like every time we do something like that, we always come back with some sort of bug. So the kids have been fighting something off. I've been fighting something off. And, uh, yeah, every time I go to record one of these, I think I, I was just fighting something off whenever I was on your podcast last, uh, Mark.

Yeah, it was like, yeah, a month ago.

Oh man. Maybe I'm allergic to you guys. I don't know.

That sounds right.

We could only imagine.

In the lead-up. Or it's just the anticipation, you know? It's like a—

Yeah.

It's so nervous.

It's an immune response.

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

No, we're good.

I have that effect on people. I'm kidding. But those are some cool— You do give me a rash. Every time.

Every time.

Every time.

I feel— and I feel like I, I have like a— my system flushes. Like, I kind of like my skin prickles and I can feel like my inner, my core temperature rising. Yeah, my blood pressure spikes probably a little bit.

Yeah.

It spikes. Is that a pun?

Oh, that's, that's a good, that's a good reference.

I've been here a whole like 2 minutes and I'm already— I should just leave at that.

Like, just drop in, drop a pun. So it's not, it's not you.

It's—

well, it's— I blame Josh. I blame Josh. Josh had some really stupid wordplay before we even started, and it made me—

That's right. Yeah, you haven't even seen it, um, but you know, you'll, you'll get a taste later. He'll tell you later.

Because he's really proud of himself. He should be embarrassed, but he doesn't know any better.

This is what Josh does instead of watching Spider-Man, is that he just writes down words for the next episode.

I'll share for the whole podcast just because we've talked about Spider-Man ever since it came out. It's been a topic on the phone calls. Every single time we tend to bring it up. And I've wanted to watch it. There's really no excuse why I haven't. It just hasn't worked out.

Just to spite me so I can't talk to you about it?

To spite-erman you. So my son turned 11 and we were trying to think of something to do for his birthday. And, uh, and my wife had asked if there were any movies out. And so I was like, oh yeah, we can go see Spider-Man. He's only seen, uh, Homecoming. I think he's seen the Raimi movies, the first 2, the good ones. Um, anyways, uh, so, you know, like he wouldn't be caught up, but I was like, no big deal. You know, like there's a reset at the end of the 3rd one. I'm sure he can just jump in. So I go, uh, 'cause we have a local theater here. I mean, like 4 blocks up the road, you know, we can walk to it. It's no— We've done it multiple times. And this past weekend, so he turned 11 on Monday, but we celebrated Saturday. And I think Thursday was the last day that it was in the theater. It got replaced with the Endgame, the newer version of Endgame. So I was like, oh. So we could have gone, driven 20, 25-ish minutes to another theater to go see it, but that's not what happened.

If you loved your son, you would've done that.

Right. Yes, if I did. But, uh, yeah, unfortunately. Um, so no, I still, still have not seen it. And yeah, I don't know, the runtime does not help. But anyway, like I said, there's, there's no excuse. I just haven't gotten around to it. There's really no excuse.

You're just the worst.

Um, yeah. Yes, it's true. Anyways, um, so that's a fun— isn't that a fun experience that we get to share? How about we share some more experiences. That's right, XP Share, where we share experiences with one another in media, the things that we, uh, have been enjoying, primarily enjoying. I mean, generally we don't talk about the stuff that we, you know, really hate. I guess there could be the possibility of that. Nate, what do you really hate in life?

That'd be fun topic.

I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Um, yeah, I mean, yes, Spike, you're, you're here, so why not? We throw you to the lion's den, right? Is that how it goes? Throw you to the lions? I don't know. Anyways, grab the bull by the horns. All right. Do you have any experiences you want to share? Experiences with media?

Uh, let's see. Um, so driving back from vacation, uh, long drive, kids are sleeping, my wife was reading the book, and I was listening to, um, Andy Serkis's version of Return of the King, the audiobook.

Nice.

And, uh, man, he just does an awesome job. And this was like I was finishing it up. So I was listening to the last little bit, which if you know the books, like the ending differs quite a bit from the movies. And, uh, Mm-hmm. I'm, I'm driving and I'm listening to this, man, this is awesome. And, uh, you know, you get to some of the more like heavy-hitting, you know, send-off moments. And I'm like trying not to have to turn to, to pull the car over because, you know, break down and, and puddle of emotion. But yeah, it was, it was great. So finished that up recently, and then I had heard that, you know, a lot of people talk about The Silmarillion and how, you know, it's dense and it's hard to get into and things like that. I was thinking, well, that probably wouldn't do very well with, you know, an audio version. But I had read some reviews, people said Andy Serkis does a great job on it. So I was like, I'll try it out. And so I've been listening to that, um, and surprisingly, you know, even though there's, you know, there's a lot of names and they're throwing a lot of that at you, um, the, the story and just the way that it, it talks about the creation of the— that, that universe, um, is just— it's awesome. And listening to it, Andy Serkis, the way he enunciates certain things and emphasizes certain things, he's just— the guy should win awards if he hasn't for his, uh, all of his readings. But, uh, uh, yeah, this, this, this is catching me a lot more than I thought it would. I thought I was just gonna put it on for a little bit and be like, yeah, this isn't for me. But so far, uh, it's, it's just, it's been really, really good to kind of get the backstory of, you know, you get a lot of the whys, uh, of, of, you know, this universe answered. Um, you know, why are there elves? Why, you know, um, well, I don't want to spoil anything, but yeah, there's, there's a lot of— questions that are answered with this. And so far I'm really liking it.

So that's awesome.

That's nice.

One of the main things—

Can you imagine how great it would have been though if the first chapter was read by Meryl Streep into existence? That would have been so much better.

Are you— that must be— you must have seen my post in Discord. Gosh, that— they're like not even trying to hide it anymore. No.

With the rainbow mane.

Oh gosh.

Yeah, the thing about the names, a lot of people get lost in the Silmarillion. It's trying to remember everything. Don't try to remember everything. And in fact, going with an audiobook, I think, is a better Just because the language is so poetical that hearing it out loud actually makes bigger impact. But I actually, we at my old church, they were doing suggestions for readings for the men's group. And I suggested that first section of Silmarillion, the Ainulandilë. And just because I think That section in particular is one of the most beautiful things ever written in English.

And it's really fun to say that word out loud. It is.

That's why I said that too.

Yeah, yeah.

Uh, I'm gonna have to practice that too.

Just gorgeous, gorgeous writing. And that, that's the, that's the creation of, of, of Middle-earth.

And, um, yeah, how it's all done. And, and, you know, there's this constant motif of, of song for lack of a better term, using motifs, right? But there's this idea of he's creating just by, you know, sound. I don't know, as a music nerd, that, that kind of, you know, ticks a box for me.

One of the coolest things about, about it, and these are spoilers, it's The Silmarillion, guys. Spoilers don't matter. Just, just read it. But, you know, he had a Eru Ilúvatar has everybody, has all the Ainur singing, uh, this song, and Melkor, uh, gets jealous and he tries to sing discord into the song only to find out that Ilúvatar has already planned that and he turns it into melody. And it just pisses him off, uh, Melkor off more. But it's, it's just one of the coolest ideas. And I don't know if I should if I shared it to y'all with y'all because it's a really really nerdy meme. But I don't know if you've seen that performance. It was John Lennon. I who was he singing with? It was Chuck Berry or somebody. Yeah, when Yoko starts. So anyway, there's this meme and it and it has John and Chuck like singing and John's labeled a Louvatar and and Chuck. And then it cuts to, um, to Yoko and it's Belcor. And whoever the sound guy was immediately just turns her way down. It's like, nice job, sound guy.

Yeah, yeah, he's on it. We already planned for this. Oh man. Yeah, that's Yeah.

Oh, oh, but that's cool that you're— I, I'd like to get that, that one and re-listen to it because just some beautiful passages. Um, have you gotten to Beren and Lúthien yet?

I—

not yet.

Okay, that, that section is excellent.

Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, so far I'm not too awfully far into it just yet, but, uh, gotten past that first initial, the thing that I'm not going to try to say because I haven't practiced it, whatever you said earlier, the first section of the book.

I'm deluded today.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever that is. I got past that. And so far it's really good.

Awesome. Awesome, man. All right. Well, other Nate, you got some experiences you want to share with us?

Yeah, sure. I've been, I too have been listening to a book. It is not Andy Serkis. It is not read by Andy Serkis.

What a shame.

Yeah, that's not awesome. The narrator is fine, but it is a book and I have to— it's actually a trilogy and it's called Lavern's Daughter and it's 3 books written by Sigrid Undset.

Oh yeah.

Sure.

I don't know that anything that you say is English.

It's not because I'm pretty sure she's Norwegian. So it's, it's all— it's translated, but—

Oh, good. I was going to say, Nate has no idea what this book is about. He's about—

no, I've just been listening to Norwegian for the last, like, 20 hours. It's not even a pretty language. I don't think—

just listening to the Swedish Chef in my off time, you know.

But it's one of those books. And actually, I think if I'm remembering correctly, I was listening to A Graveyard Shift, which is sort of a Haunted Cosmos sort of spinoff podcast thing that they do occasionally. And Lexi Sauvé, Brian's wife, was on with them and she was talking about the book and she recommended it to Ben, I think. And so I originally picked it up. I was like, well, she's recommending this to Ben. It has to be like some, like, bits of high strange. And it's totally not that. It's like basically a period piece about a girl growing up in the medieval era in Norway. And so it's about like medieval Catholic Christendom, and it's just sort of tracing this girl's life. And it's, it's one of those things where in some ways it actually kind of reminds me a lot of like Tolstoy in that The author has a really great grasp of, like, human psychology, and she primarily writes from the perspective, like, from, like, sort of inside of Kristen's perspective. And but she just understands the human psychology and the human condition. And so there's a lot of things like I tend to be one of those people who just like, people are people, right? And so a lot of times we, we can look at the past and sort of not even deify it, but sort of like think it was so much better because, like, you know, they didn't have all these modern sins or whatever. It's like, no, well, sin has been a universally present issue in all of human history. And even in this story, it's kind of interesting because— and I think also what's kind of refreshing about it. So you've got that where it's like, it just feels like it's fiction, but it feels like a really honest kind of like picture.

Yeah.

of what it might be like to grow up in that time. And then you've got also sort of like, in one way, it's kind of refreshing because I think culturally we sit on sort of the opposite side of the spectrum. But it does— a good bit of it sort of is investigating, I guess, the tremendous amount of guilt. That sin can sort of like— so without spoiling too much, like, there's some pretty significant sin issues, and especially the way that Kristen sometimes deals with those. And just like, it's almost to a point where it's like, okay, yeah, you should feel really bad about this. Like, that was a really crappy thing. You shouldn't have done that. That was really wicked. But Christ's power is sufficient. to wash you white as snow. But also it's sort of like, hey, this is a young woman who is operating under, again, sort of like medieval Catholic sort of theological framework. So there's a lot of guilt, the need for atonement, for penance, and, you know, not understanding that atonement has been accomplished. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's, it's just really interesting, but it's also, they just take, she takes her sin seriously and culturally.

Hmm.

I don't think we do.

Yeah.

We're almost sort of on the other side of the spectrum where we kind of— I don't like the term grace abuse, but we're almost frivolous with grace, whereas they had no understanding of it. It's sort of reinforcing in some ways like, oh yeah, the Reformation had to happen. Martin Luther had to come because they didn't understand the opposite side of this coin. Yes, The the weight of your guilt is like heinous. It's like it's heavy and it's massive. Anyways, I just like the book. I think it's pretty interesting. Like I said, it's it's not really like Anna Karenina. Like I I'd say I think I I enjoyed Tolstoy better. But I do find like and and it's a translation, but I am enjoying it. I think it's kind of a cool book. Uh, it's very off the beaten path for me, but, uh, I'm liking it.

So, yeah.

Does it come from like a faith perspective?

Yeah, I mean, it's— Kristen grows up— Kristen grows up like they're basically like Catholic believers. Like she grows up in a Christian household, you know, kind of thing. I don't know that it's necessarily like— I don't know that I think the author became Catholic at one point in time, so it is rooted in that.

Sure. Okay.

But it's more of a historical piece. And so again, it's sort of like, you know, again, the medieval sort of era. You know, I think like the 1300s, the book is sort of placed in the 1200s, the 1300s. So, uh, in that sort of time frame. Um, got it. Yeah, it's just, it's just a really interesting sort of historical piece, like, like historical fiction piece. I don't know, it's nice. It's— yeah, I, I'm enjoying it. It's not like, it's not like everybody needs to like, you know, go like running to the, the nearest bookstore and buying this, but I think it's like, it's actually It's been kind of interesting. I'm liking it a lot more than I was like at first. I was like, oh, I don't know, like this isn't kind of what I thought it was going to be. But the more I've kind of been checking in, I'm like, I like this a lot more than I thought I would kind of thing.

So.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Very good.

That is cool.

Yeah.

Nice, man. Um, well, let's keep moving on here, Paul. What experiences do you have to share?

Well, and I do need to say, despite the fact that we script all these episodes, we didn't plan this, but it feels like so far everybody's been really on these highbrow literary journeys. And I am too. I went to see Resident Evil, which is about as highbrow as it comes.

Was he home? The resident?

I am not a Resident Evil fan. I'm not a fan of the games.

Not you, Paul.

I haven't played.

Josh needs to shut up.

Sorry. Sorry. You got to admit, it's not a great title. You know, the original Japanese Biohazard actually makes a lot more sense for the series. But anyways, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just totally cut you off.

Yeah.

So Resident Evil.

I've never played any of the games. I've seen some playthroughs. I'm not a fan of the series. I am a fan of Zack Greger. And, uh, I've seen his other— I, I think it's 2 full-length films. And this was definitely a Zach Cregger movie. It was—

Okay.

Very— so, uh, he did, uh, Barbarian and Weapons more most recently, uh, which I think is his best of the 3.

Um, okay.

But, uh, it's— they're very, very funny, uh, but I don't know. He's got a nice way of not letting the humor release the tension too much until the end. And it's just kind of this really, really funny but nervous humor to it. And—

Well, that kind of tracks though, too, because Craig was part of The Whitest Kids You Know.

Right. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And hey, Uh, so from what I've seen of Resident Evil, it didn't seem too haha funny. Like, I mean, the video games. Uh, but yeah, and, um, from reviews I've seen is that, uh, you know, normies are probably gonna like this movie better than the hardcore fans will.

Um, okay.

But, uh, but, uh, uh, I— of those 3 films, I think it's the weakest, but I still really, really enjoyed it. And it has this similar ending of Weapons in that you're watching it and thinking to yourself, should I be laughing this much? Because I don't feel like it's right to be laughing this much at this crazy stuff going on. Okay. Interesting. But especially the first half. The last act is a little rushed, but the first 2 acts are are really, really well done.

Yeah, it's funny you say that because with Weapons, I, I was in the same boat, right? The, the ending, I was embarrassing myself in the theater because I'm like, I, I can't help it. I'm just gonna lose it because this is hilarious. And, uh, but you know, you think about the first Resident Evil, I'm not talking about the remakes, like the— I'm talking about the ones with the live-action FMVs. Yeah, like leaning into a little bit of that campiness, I could see that working pretty well You know, playing some of the humor off of that maybe. But I don't, I don't know how he does it. I haven't seen the movie, but I could see that working out with a little bit.

He doesn't— I think one of the things that's really interesting is like one of the reasons I think like a lot of the hardcore fans of the franchise are going to be rejected is that he's like, he's not telling any of like the Resident Evil story game stuff. He's not even doing like adaptations like the previous Resident Evil movies. This is a story set in that universe that is like tangential to the games and like what would happen in it. But it's like it is something completely like— and I think that that's— so it's like some of the pushback, like Paul, you actually brought up that like, I think there's been some pushback against like some of the like the more hardcore community where they're like, he's not even like telling the stories of the series. And I'm like, well, we don't need those. Like we have, we have a whole bunch of games over there. Like this is like, this is cool in my opinion.

It does take place in Raccoon City from what I can tell on the— and look, y'all tell me. I mean, from what I can tell from the videos I've watched, it seems to be happening near the same time as the 3rd game, but it's happening in Raccoon City. You know, Umbrella is a major part of it. And there's a lot of, a lot of little details that, um, that, that are from the games. Um, the, the, the cool thing about the first 2 acts is, is it's very survivor horror. It's, oh, I found a shotgun. Okay, now I have to find the shells because I don't have any shells, you know. And, and so it's, uh, it's It's kind of the tension of, I know danger's coming. If I spend a little more time, I can get some bullets, you know, or do I run? And, um, he, he, he balances that really, really well.

Hmm.

And so, um, yeah, like I said, I, I very much enjoyed it. Uh, it's, uh, if, if y'all saw Weapons and hated Weapons, you ain't gonna like this one. It's okay. It's definitely a Zack Cregger film.

Well, and I think that's what's kind of interesting to me is actually like, I haven't seen Weapons, I haven't seen Barbarian. I've been like mildly curious about them. But as a general rule, horror isn't really my thing as far as movies go. I like survival horror games, horror movies. I'm kind of like, but like even sort of this conversation for me, it's like, maybe, maybe it's time for me to like go back. And sort of just like watch Barbarian, watch Weapons, and sort of because like I am, I'm a little intrigued by this. Like because I think even that that's sort of leaning into that sort like you saying that where it's like that he actually leans into sort of like the feel of a survival horror game where it's like like that that in the game that creates tension exactly like you're playing it and it's like if I kind of like check the drawers here like. Maybe I'll find some ammo. But also, Mr. X is like, I can hear him stomping down the hallway. And it's like— and there's something kind of really spe— that's like, that's actually something really special about those, those games. And for him to find a way to translate that, to bring that over to sort of like the film, that's, that's kind of cool. I like that.

Yeah.

It's like, it sounds like he understood the assignment.

Yeah.

And those were my favorite parts of the movie for sure. He has a very distinct and unique voice to his films that I appreciate. It's like his horror films are something that really you couldn't just hand off to a different director.

Mm-hmm.

It's— you recognize it immediately. It's, it's very unexpected. It's very funny. Um, uh, Weapons in particular leans into the mystery aspect of it quite a bit too. And so it's kind of this mystery comedy horror. Um, that's real. Uh, and like I said, that's my favorite of the 3.

Uh, okay.

Uh, and, uh, that's a really good entry point for anybody who's curious about Craigers. You know, horror work.

Well, and I think that movie was excellent. So you hit on something there, though, that has kind of like, as I've been looking at this, but a lot of it is when people are talking about this, they pretty specifically mentioned the fact that like, these are almost like, these are dark comedies almost as much as they're like horror movies. And I'm like, okay, Because I do like a good dark comedy. Like, yeah.

So yeah, it's, it's one of those things to where most of the time I feel like anymore when you watch a scary movie, it's almost like they're, they're just trying to leave you with this whole feeling of dread throughout the entire— like, you leave and you just kind of have this gross feeling. I didn't feel that leaving Weapons. Like, after leaving Weapons, you think back and You're like, man, that is not what I was expecting it to be. And it was a blast.

The laughter at the end of Weapons is cathartic. Like, you know, you've been carrying this weight this whole film and the way it ends, the humor of the way it ends just leaves— it's very satisfying. It's so satisfying.

Yeah. You expect it to do the normal thing to where, you know, there's Of course, I don't want to spoil anything, but like, like you said, you just leave, oh, that's how they're going to end it. That's, that's, it's so much different than anything you see today. Yeah, I, I agree with that.

Yeah, cool. There you go, man.

I'll tell you what, just the trailer for Weapons messed me up, so I'm out on all these. Respect to them, this is not for me.

Yeah. So it sounds like you like the movie, but maybe if it had more weapons in it, it would have been better.

Dude, could you force that anymore?

Get like, no, I'm not a barbarian. Come on. We gotta keep moving. What just happened? Um, okay, so, um, Yeah, I've only seen Barbarian. I actually need to— I need to see Weapons.

Oh, have you seen Barbarian?

I did. It was in the— it was during the time when MoviePass was a thing, and I think it's come back, you know, whatever. But when I was paying, you know, hardly anything to see like a few movies a week, um, and that was just one of the movies that was out. So I saw Barbarian in theaters and I liked it. I do think there's some things that are kind of heavy-handed, and I don't think it ended super well. So it was a little uneven, dude. The opening, like 20 minutes, is just like, is fantastic. And then it totally switches gears and it gets really good in a totally different way with what's his name, Jason Long.

Oh yeah. When he shows up.

Funny.

And yeah, it's wild.

Total slimeball. But there were some, there were some things that I think was, was a little, yeah, a little too heavy-handed with the Anyways, but overall, I did like it.

Weapons is on Prime as of time of recording for another day.

Oh, goodness.

Okay.

So by the time this podcast is over—

We only recently in the last month saw Barbarian.

Oh, okay.

Okay. Because Weapons was our first Craig film, and I just adored it. Barbarian, all of his movies take weird left turns. Barbarian way more than the others. There are some crazy left turns in that movie that you're like, wait, that's not what was supposed to happen. Okay, what's the situation now?

Yeah.

But when you were doing puns on the titles, one of the things with both Barbarian and Weapons is figuring out what the titles are even referring to, right? Uh, because it's, it's, it's, it does touch on the story, but, um, but not in the ways that you're expecting.

Yeah.

Yep. And, um, uh, oh shoot, I was gonna say something. Oh, anyways, yeah, the first like 20 minutes of, of Barbarian is like a short story all in itself, which of course it sets up the rest of the movie for sure. But it is, man, I, I remember I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.

Yeah, that's the best part of the film. Yeah, I love Jason Long and his— I always love Jason Long, but his character is really good. But yeah, that first, that first act is awesome.

Yeah, yeah. So anyways, anyways, um, good, good to know about Resident Evil though, that we've got a good Resident Evil movie in the theaters right now. Um, Mark, what have you been into? What do you have to share?

That's right.

That's what I'm trying to say.

Sure. Yeah. So here's the thing. So I've been chipping away at Metroid Prime 4 for a bit and it's been my, it's been my bike game. So on stationary bike and playing that.

Nice.

You're primed for it.

All primed up for it. Um, primed for it. Uh, it's, uh, so yes, I've been playing through, playing through it. I'm probably 3 quarters of the way. through it, I think.

Okay.

Um, I do still feel like it's overhated. Uh, okay. But I'm kind of getting it now. Like, I, like, in the sense of, I am no longer excited to play it. And so I'm just kind of at the point where it's like, I thought it was a 4 out of 5, maybe it's a 3 out of 5. Um, it's still a pretty good action adventure game. And I, but as far as like a entry in the Metroid Prime series, it, it is disappointing. Um, it's like pretty linear, it's pretty simple, it's pretty repetitive. Uh, it's also— it, like, to be fair to it, is not a mess. I think there's—

Yeah.

With as much of like the development woes as it had and them restarting, like, it could have just been a glob of, of mess, and it was— it is they salvaged it well enough, um, but just not very ambitious or very complex. Like, it— like, like I mentioned, it's pretty linear. Um, it's kind of all the same power-ups you get in all the other Metroid games. They're just psychic now. Um, there's like only—

it—

there's more than this, but it feels like there's only 4 different enemy types. Um, and so you kind of feel like you're just—

Okay.

Like, peashooting at the same same things over and over again. Um, and like, it is still amazing looking. Like, it's— the graphics of it are incredible. It's still like pretty naturally cool, and like there's really cool set pieces, and the vibes are still Metroid Prime. Um, but it's just kind of like a— this is like— I've been thinking about my GD review. I'm going to start it was like with The greatest sin of Metroid Prime 4 is that they made a pretty good action-adventure game. And that's kind of all it really is. And the thing that's starting to bug me about it too is Samus is pretty slow and clunky. And I haven't played the Metroid Prime games in a while, so I think that might just be how Samus is in those games too.

Hey, spoiler warning, Samus is a girl. What?

What?

What?

That's you know what though, Mark.

Slow and clumsy.

So this is wow.

Well, that took disappointing.

We know it's not just Samus, and we and she's pregnant.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Well, so. I got inspired to like, I jumped back into a little bit of Metroid Dread at the same time too, just, just a couple days ago, partly because of like the trailer for Metroid Ravenous was so dang cool that it's like, I kind of want to get back to Dread again. Um, and that really felt like, because I, I'd started a new file sometime last year, turns out, so I was like, I'll see where I'm at with that one again. It turns out I'm like halfway through. I started on a hard mode playthrough.

Yeah.

So I'm just trying to re-catch up into how that game works and everything. Uh, but immediately it is just like Samus is, is fast and fluid and zippy. Um, and just like everything is so much snappier and smooth. Um, and just kind of like there's this proof. I don't know if Metroid games were like this for a long time, but like Samus doesn't have to be a walking tank. Um, and that's what Prime 4 just kind of feels like. Um, so it's, it's both good and disappointing. And again, like, for people who wanted like the, the next Metroid Prime game, especially after, you know, it was like 8 years of that, of development time.

Sure.

Uh, it is, it's pretty disappointing for that, that series, even though it's also still Decently good. Yeah, I'll finish it out, um, but I'm— it's a little bit of a slog now, and I'm curious to see if maybe there's some cool stuff in the final act that would win me over.

One of the things that I've heard is that, um, the supporting cast is pretty— yeah, um, there's that one in particular that, uh, Miles Who apparently sounds like, uh, just like a stock Marvel script character kind of thing.

Yeah. And it's like, that hasn't been as offensive because I knew all that going in where it's like, and Miles is, is the worst one. Um, there is a kind of pretty funny bit where he's like, he, he's opening, like you first rescue him and he's trying to open up the like the cargo ship where you get your missiles back. And like the back door of it kind of just like barely goes down by a few inches. He's like, oh man, well, it looks like I gotta manually override this. He just kind of like hops up and hangs on the door for a little bit. And so I was just like, that's actually pretty clever. But the rest, like the other ones, they're fine. They're there. They're like kind of cliché action movie people.

Mm-hmm.

Um, okay, Miles is the worst of them, but if you know that going in, it's not as bad. And then he kind of just— after like the first area, you just never really have to talk to him that much. Um, they, they will annoy you if you want to be annoyed by them. You can kind of just ignore it and be fine.

Gotcha.

You know, the other thing you said that I was thinking about was that like I do remember that even in Metroid Prime, it did not feel like a very fast game. Like, but it, but, but it has also been a long time since I played it as well. Like, it didn't feel slow. Like, didn't have sort of like the, the weightiness of maybe like, I don't know, Halo or something like that.

Sure.

Yeah.

And I think the original Metroid Prime is like the, the maps were so intricate and kind of interwoven. It's the classic Metroid stuff where it's all these different paths. It's like you kind of see how this whole world connects together. And there's a methodicalness to Metroid Prime that the complexity in those maps kind of brings out. And you might be slower, but you kind of have to be slower.

Mm-hmm.

This is very much of like, Metroid Prime 4 is very much more, you go from one room to the next room. You might take a side room to unlock the door in the next room. But it's just like, the map looks like this massive maze, but it's like a small intestine where there's really only one path forward. And that feels like it, It's too boring to be this slow. Like it could be cooler if Samus was just faster or like they gave her a melee even. I think it's just, you've only got the beam. Some of these enemies are sponges and it just kind of feels sluggish. And while also not being complex enough to allow sluggishness.

To kind of justify that.

Yes, that's the word.

Yeah.

Hmm. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Well, at least it's still fine.

Yeah. Like it's, it's fine. That's why, that's how I feel about it. It's still really cool. It's a cool world. Like Samus is a cool character and she's still cool.

Just sluggish.

Clunky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not as disappointing as other games that have been. released recently that we don't really have time to talk about here. Um, so that's, that's good. That's good that it's still a good game. Um, yeah, it is, it is hard to get excited about. It's, it's interesting because I've seen it on sale a number of times and I've been tempted, halfway tempted to pick it up, but I'm like, is it even worth, you know, that much? Is it worth $40? You know, ah, part of me wants to just because it's $40, but then a part of me is like, when am I actually going to get around to playing this?

Sure.

So yeah, it's the sort of thing of like, if you're a Metroid fan, like the $30, $40 price range is probably worth it. If you're going to spend $40 on a Metroid game, you should probably get Metroid Prime Remastered.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Or Metroid Dread.

There you go. There you go.

I have Super Metroid.

That's a good one too. Yeah.

It's the last Metroid game I bought.

Nice. I was gonna say, I don't know why you'd pay $40 for it, but I guess if you're getting a cartridge, they're probably— they've probably shot it brand new.

So I, I—

nice.

It probably was $40 or $50.

Yeah, yeah, in '90s dollars. Um, yeah, that's fun. Cool, man. Um, well, I guess I'll, I'll round it out here, uh, since we're sharing experiences. The experience that I want to share is, is a book that I listened to. It's really just kind of a short story, but man, okay, so it's a classic tale. It's an Arthur, King Arthur tale. Sir Gawain, Gawain, I guess is probably how you pronounce it, Gawain and the Green Knight. So this was originally written, you know, Nate, you talked about how your book was written in the 1300s. I'm pretty sure this one was—

No, no, it's set in the—

That's where it's set.

It's not written. It's—

gotcha.

I mean, it was written this last century, so—

Gotcha. Okay, well, I apologize. I misunderstood there. I thought you said 12. Anyways, um, this one was written in the 1300s, um, and so this is obviously a translation. It's an audiobook that I'm listening to, but even the first chunk of the audiobook— so this was translated by Simon— I wrote it down here— Simon Armitage. We're following a script, guys. You got to follow that script. Simon Armitage translated it, and the whole, the whole, like, introduction to the book talks about his translation philosophy, basically, you know, because it's difficult because this is an— it's kind of an epic poem in a way, even though it's a short story. So, so maybe not epic in the sense of, you know, the Odyssey epic, but epic in the sense of You know, just some larger-than-life characters and happenings and things like that. Um, anyways, the, uh, it's, it's fascinating how well-written it is. Obviously, I do not understand Old English, and they did actually include the Old English as well after the translation, and I did listen to that for a few minutes, but I'm just like, whoa, even after like listening to the story, um, uh, trying to, to listen to the Old English, it's like I can barely hold on to even, uh, what they're talking about. You know, I can pick out a few words and phrases, but that's just about it. Anyways, the translation, uh, man, it is a beautiful translation. It uses a lot of alliteration throughout, um, so it's not, it's not necessarily the same kind of like, you know, tempo that, that some poetry is, because obviously, you know, the translation kind of messes with that a little bit. Um, but throughout, the use of alliteration is pretty staggering. Like, I, I just can't imagine how much work went into obviously the original writing, which is, um, I was gonna say anonymous. That's, that's the right word. So we don't know who wrote the original story. Um, But, but man, it's, it's really well-written anyway. So that's about like the writing and the style and stuff like that, which on its own is, is great. So it was fun to just listen to for the style. The story itself is a tale. It is, it is interesting because of how I think of King Arthur. And usually that's, you know, you think of hardships and victories.

Yeah.

You know, throughout, throughout there. And of course, there's, you know, there's intrigue and stuff like that with, with Lancelot and some other things that happen in there. So it's not all bright and happy, but I think of the more like bright and happy bits, even though there's some, you know, Merlin darkness and stuff going on as well. This story feels pretty dark and heavy just because it starts— I mean, it starts off, everyone's, you know, having a, having a party. You know, the Knights of the Round Table are there. But then in walks this green knight. So his horse is green, even his armor is green, and then his skin is also green. So it's like, oh, what's going on? Spoiler alert for, you know, story that's hundreds of years old. But he offers anyone to, to basically take one clean blow at him. And if he survives it, then, uh, then that knight is going to have to take a blow. Like, he challenges the knights, you know, hit me once, and if I can survive the hit, then a year from now I'll do the same to you. And so, uh, Sir Gawain, um, who is, I believe, the nephew of King Arthur— I believe, I could have that wrong— um, but he, you know, he's like, you're challenging King Arthur's, you know, his place, basically, you know, his glory, his honor. So yeah, I'm going to do this. So long story short, he chops off this dude's head and the body just picks up the head, plops it right back on and says, okay, in a year, you know, I'll see you back at my place kind of a thing. And so it goes from, you know, the Knights of the Round Table having a grand old time, having a feast together to just like this really jarring, like almost horror moment where this character should have died because his head rolled off his body. And then, and then, but he's perfectly fine. So you don't know what's going on kind of a thing. And then, and then he goes on a little bit of an adventure. Anyways, it's a great story in and of itself. It's, it's so cool to see how these stories kind of resonate even again hundreds of years afterwards, like all the tales of King Arthur do. I get that. But just some of the things that this talks about, about what it means, how it communicates the good and the true and the beautiful, even in the midst of this kind of pretty dark tale in general. And it is— it does have some more mature themes, I would say, as well. But it's— yeah, it's really well written. I enjoyed it a lot. And it was, you know, it was short. So. I enjoyed it. Anyways, that's enough yapping. Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Highly recommend it. It's a good time.

Yeah, that story's really— and I had to look it up because I remember it being longer than you described. And it actually is longer than Beowulf.

Is it really? Wow.

Yeah. I mean, epic poems are tough to write. And so they didn't make them 500 pages long. Yeah, but, uh, I— in, um, so when I was doing graduate school, uh, I wrote a paper on Gawain. And, um, and one of the things that was humorous and surprised me is that every single book, critical book I read, every single one without fail quoted Tolkien.

Okay, nice.

And so I'm learning through all this that like Tolkien was considered the greatest expert of this poem ever.

Okay.

Wow.

And his edition of the text is the one that all critics were using. I've since read his translation and it's really good.

Wow.

Yeah, his translation is, I think, considered the academic standard.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

I'll need to search that one out then.

And I'm interested in this translation because it sounds like they kept the Uh, all right, so English medieval poetry, uh, uh, was written in the alliterative line. Uh, so it's a, it's a 4-beat line where the first, uh, the first half of the line will share sounds with the second half, and that's where you get all those alliterations. So there's no rhyming and there's no, there's no definite rhythm except that there's 2 beats.

Mm-hmm.

So there could be as many unstressed beats in between the beats as the stressed syllables as you want. You can put 1 or you can put 12. It doesn't matter. But that's where that alliteration comes in. And it's just a gorgeous way of writing poetry.

Yeah.

And for those waiting for my second book of poetry, I'll have some alliterative verse in there. Not the first one though. Still buy the first one, you three of you who couldn't get it.

Yeah, man.

But it's so good. And okay, this is really, really random, but I'm never going to pass up an opportunity to plug the movie Excalibur, which is the best fantasy movie that's not Lord of the Rings. And Gawain appears in a sequence, not this story, but the character appears in a sequence in the middle of the movie. And it is, uh, he is played by Liam Neeson in his first role. Uh, and he's not great in it, but it's still really, really cool.

Nice, nice. All right. Yeah, I, I don't think I've actually seen that one. I know, I know you have told me about it, but I don't think I've actually seen it.

I—

okay, and I, I'll say, like, uh, so for years, for years, they printed 2 copies, 2 different versions of this movie. One was the original rated R version, uh, which, which does— fair warning to everybody— does have some nudity in it. And but then they cut a PG version of it that was originally for television. But so many teach— high school teachers wanted to show this movie in class because it, it, it really is the most accurate Arthur, uh, story told. It's based on Mallory, uh, Mallory's work. And, and so, so many teachers wanted it that they started printing a, um, a PG version of it. Uh, which is the way I always saw it on TV and in class. And, uh, when I first bought my first copy, it was kind of shocking. It's like, oh my goodness, those, those aren't supposed to be in there. Uh, and, um, and the PG version went out of print. And it's— it annoys me because this movie is really great and should be watched by like junior high and high school age kids who are studying Arthur.

Mm-hmm.

Because it's It really gets to the heart of the story very quickly, but they only have this rated R version. So only in the last few months they announced that they were going to do a set that would have the PG version back in it. And I'm like, yes, finally. And I looked it up and it's like a $70 collector edition.

Like, guys, come on. Yeah.

Yeah.

Criterion Collection, you know?

Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. That's how it happens. Oh man.

Uh, but all right, yeah, fair warning to everybody, y'all should watch it anyways because it is, it is an absolute masterpiece.

Nice. Sweet. Well, I had similar thoughts, and at least the masterpiece, or at least I recognized because I knew going in that Sir Gawain and the Green Knight was, was A classic. I just hadn't actually read it for myself, so it was it was a fun listen for sure.

Well, I'm glad you did that. That's yeah. I mean, everybody reads Beowulf as their like you know medieval epic, but that was really good.

Yeah, yeah. I do like it. I do like it. Um, well, I guess we're you know we have our own kind of round table here. With this, us 5 guys, um, and we should probably start winding it, winding this, this down, um, since we're in the round here. But do we have any— before we sign off, are there any kind of honorable mentions or anything else that we, that we want to bring up, uh, now that we've brought kind of our main— we've shared our main experiences? Is there anything else that anyone wants to throw out there, um, before we go? Nate? Well, Spike, how about you? Oh no, are you muted?

You're muted.

Okay, it's like something's wrong here.

You hear me now? Yes. Okay, unfortunately.

Yikes.

Uh, no, uh, I think as far as experiences go, I mean, I've been playing some Fire Emblem: Three Houses to prep for the new one and a little bit of Octopath Traveler, but, uh, You said a quick honorable mention and yeah, either of those are—

yeah, yeah.

If we got another hour or two real quick, we can, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

All right, uh, Nate, how about you, dude? Any other mentions?

Just real quick, um, there's this project that has come across like my, my algorithm. It's called the Dead Gods Project. It's by a guy named Matt Rhodes. Um, he was an artist, like a concept artist at BioWare for a while. Um, but it is set up, it's, it's sort of like a heroic fantasy retelling of the, uh, story of Noah and the Ark.

Okay.

And there's some clips of it, like some, he's like shown some panels of it. Looks really stinking cool. It's like going to be a graphic novel sort of thing. It oh, it's definitely like one of those things that kind of appeals to me just because like it also like he's leaning into like the more fantastic elements. So like he's like playing with Nephilim and that kind of like that setting. And so it's like yeah, yeah. I I think people should go Google it and check it out. Like how Useful is it going to be? I don't know yet because it's— yeah, but I'm— I think it's kind of cool looking. So yeah, it's got that going for it.

Nice, nice. All right, uh, Paul, any, any other honorable mentions?

I, you know, the show we just started, and I only started watching it because, uh, Nerdrotic recommended it on Twitter. And so I was like, oh, I got to check that out. It's called Widow's Bay on Apple.

Okay.

Yep. And it's— I would not have gravitated toward this because the showrunner has worked on some amazing shows like Parks and Rec and written some horrible movies like Ghostbusters 2016. So I would have avoided her like the plague normally. Because of Ghostbusters, but it's a comedy horror. It is hysterical and really well-written with some really very cool, quirky, well-rounded characters on this island that has been awakened. And so we're a couple episodes in and really liking that show.

I've heard good things about it. Yeah, so nice, nice, man. Well, uh, Mark, how about you? Anything else before we head out?

Yeah, so we, um, so I've been playing through Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, still chipping away at that. I'll give more report on that later on, but, uh, my wife Sarah kind of started watching me play it over, over my shoulder, and we started talking about Indiana Jones. She's only seen Crystal Skull, Which is unfortunate. And all she remembers is the aliens.

That's sad.

So it's like, well, we gotta watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. So we watched Raiders of the Lost Ark and that's a really good movie. And the main thing going through my head is like, I cannot wait to show my son this. It is more violent than I remember. And I remembered the Nazi melting, but there's other stuff that's like, like a guy gets shot in the head and it's like you uncork a wine bottle. And so it's just, Yeah, there's some stuff that is like, this is technically rated PG, but this is like the 1980s PG.

So. Well, yeah, before there was PG-13 because Temple of Doom is what convinced Hollywood. It's like, we got to change this rating to PG.

Oh, that's right.

This is not good.

There's also like, there's a scene where a dude gets something like burnt into his hand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The medallion in his hand.

Yeah.

Yes.

That is just about a perfect movie.

It's so cool. It's, yeah. It's also longer than I remember because they like dig up the Ark about halfway through and I was like, what else happens in this movie? Like, I know there's the Nazi melting, but I forget what happens between now and then.

Yeah.

Um, so it's got a great ending too. Great ending.

Yeah.

Yeah. That and just, I know it's like a, just the briefest of rabbit trails here, but like, sure. Everybody, like, real quick ordering. Like, because for me it is Last Crusade, then Raiders, then Temple of Doom. Like, I think Last Crusade is like, yeah, is a perfect movie.

Last Crusade's way up there. Depending on the day, I'll either put Raiders or Last Crusade as number one. But man, Last Crusade was great.

And we don't talk about Crystal Skull.

I don't know what that is. It's—

you're better off.

But what about that, uh, uh, gosh, I don't even remember the name. The 5th one.

Dial of Destiny.

Washed up. There you go. There you go.

I actually did. I refused to watch that one. I did see Crystal Skull, even though I, I did enjoy it.

Oh yeah, I saw Crystal Skull in theaters. Shia LaBeouf literally hanging with the monkeys. I remember that movie.

I am really curious about Dial of Destiny. I haven't seen it yet, but now that I've been so into Indiana Jones stuff right now of like, I'll finish it out. We'll watch Last Crusade next. We'll probably end up skipping Temple of Doom. Definitely skip Crystal Skull. But I'm just curious about Dial of Destiny.

I know Temple of Doom is hit and miss for people. I love it, but it's, It's, it's not as clearly brilliant as the other 2.

Yeah, it, it has a lot more like almost like Goonies-style energy to me, which is like, that's true, fine, it's fun. It's much more of like a popcorn flick, whereas like Raiders and Lost Ark are definitely— they're just like the full package.

So yeah, yeah. And by the way, I, I would agree with you, Nate, actually. Um, I— the, uh, goodness.

Last Crusade.

Last Crusade is the one that I loved, especially as a kid. Um, dude, man, even—

yeah, it's good.

So just that scene, okay? Like, it's like the best scene in any movie ever. The dude comes out with the sword and he's like waving it around, and then he just pulls out the gun and goes—

and it's like, yes, yes!

Raiders.

Yeah, that's in Raiders.

Raiders.

Yeah.

Oh, that is Raiders. Dadgummit.

Yeah.

Do y'all know why? Like, do y'all know why that's That's a great scene. Like that, because that is not in the script.

He was so done. He was, he was just Harrison Ford being Harrison Ford. I'm sick of this.

Harrison Ford was like, well, first of all, he was sick of it, but he was also literally sick. And he was supposed to have a sword fight with this guy. And he's like, guys, like, no, I'm here, but come on. And so he just, he does that and they're like, print it.

Let's go.

We're done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is, yeah, that's funny.

That one's really—

oh, it's such an iconic scene. Yeah, my favorite scene in Crusade is, um, uh, is where, um, he's going through the trials and they have the, like, the, the, the tiles of letters and it is cutting back and forth between, uh, Sean Connery and Harrison Ford. And, um, uh, and they're— he's supposed to spell out Jehovah and Sean Connery realizes, like, but there's no J. And he Cuts back to Herschel before he goes, Jay, and falls to, you know, foot falls through the floor immediately.

Nice.

You were saying something real quick there, Spike.

So yeah, it's, it's probably been, man, decades since I've seen any of those movies, but I, I've always felt bad for, especially whenever the, uh, the Star Wars sequels came out. My father-in-law was convinced because there is an Easter egg in Indiana Jones where like on the, the hieroglyphs or something like that, you can see C-3PO and R2-D2.

Yes.

He was like, he was like, just wait in these, in these sequels, they're gonna tie in. They're gonna, you know, they're gonna bring Millennium Falcon to Earth. And I was just like, I didn't have the heart to tell him that was just an Easter egg. That's not gonna happen. But he was waiting.

You know, of all the ways the, the new trilogy disappoints, that's a whole It might've been better that way.

It sounds like, he sounds like a guy who would have a great time with the Legend of Zelda timeline theories, you know, just like putting everything together and all that stuff. Oh my goodness.

Yeah.

Um, nice. Yeah, man. Well, those, yeah, Indiana Jones. I love it.

Did I lose you guys? No. You guys are blank. I don't see anything. Everybody froze.

I guess we lost him.

Did we drop the call? I think he's muted, but also his video is frozen.

He looks just really intense.

Well, we lost you. Did you lose everyone? Frozen.

Well, I think— I don't know, Josh. I just think we need to like call this thing before it derails even further.

Okay, okay, cool. Well, all right, well then we'll just skip through. Uh, uh, sorry, sorry, keep seeing what, uh, what Spike's saying here. Well, awesome, guys. Well, this— yeah, this has been another extended call. You know, we get on these calls And we, we, I mean, we just had too long of a script this time, you know, because that's what we're following here. But the script looks like it's coming to a close. So thank you guys for, for tuning in to this call. Uh, we enjoy it, you know, just getting together, just kicking around what we're, what we're into. And we appreciate you guys listening in. Um, remember, we're all friends and members of the Play Well Network. We've all got our own podcast links for that's going to be in the descriptions and, and all that. Um, and we'd love to hear from you as well if you've got something to share. Maybe you've, maybe you've been inspired to learn about the Green Knight and his adventures as well. Uh, you know, uh, let us know. We'd love to hear from you. But, uh, till next time, I think we're gonna, we're gonna head out. We're gonna land this plane. We're gonna end this call. And, uh, I don't know, we'll talk to you later.

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